06-20-2002, 01:07 PM
Luke (12:41 AM) :
Hi!
I wanted to talk about the map for the match next Wednesday
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-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:41 AM) :
ok shoot
Luke (12:43 AM) :
We checked the Castle keep yesterday in the training. It seems to be a nice map, but there were two arguments against it:
1. we dont know it (hehe.. not too bad for you ;-)
2. It is not official... it is nowhere in tcz
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:44 AM) :
have you read the rules? We can choose any map we like, as long as we agree and make give the opponent the map one week in advance. This is map is as close to standard it get, its one of the oldest around.
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:45 AM) :
you are denying us the choice of it?
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:45 AM) :
you may choose 2nd map
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:45 AM) :
we choose 1st and 3rd
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:46 AM) :
if a 3rd is needed hehehe
Luke (12:46 AM) :
not so hard... Dan... it is just a discussion... I have a suggestion
Luke (12:46 AM) :
;-)
Luke (12:48 AM) :
What do you think about the following:
1. Castle keep (so you have your own map)
2. Hot Metal (it is the CiA CTF as BETA in tcz... so I hope it will be official soon also... also you know it)
3. Everon (we both know that map... so it is a fair thing)
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:48 AM) :
no good
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:48 AM) :
we will not play a map you guys have made
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:49 AM) :
we enjoy them much, but its suicide to play a top team, on map they have constructed
Luke (12:49 AM) :
That map could be official very soon and at the moment it is a BETA in tcz... if it is official it is a must
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:49 AM) :
You may choose Everon as 2nd map yes
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:49 AM) :
3rd is our choice
Luke (12:49 AM) :
2. Custom Maps are allowed to be used under the following guidelines: Both teams must agree to a match of this nature. If both teams canât decide or one team is not involved in designing custom maps then the stock rule applies. Prior to a "custom map" match both teams will submit the maps to each other no less than one week before the scheduled match. They will also submit these maps to The Combat Zone OFP Design Team for archiving: maps@thecombatzone.net <mailto:maps@thecombatzone.net>
Luke (12:50 AM) :
We dont must accept Castle keep
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:50 AM) :
what is your choice for second
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:50 AM) :
you cant decisde 3rd
Luke (12:51 AM) :
we dont must agree with any not official map
Luke (12:51 AM) :
ups... wrong sentence, but I am sure you know what I mean:
We dont must agree on non official maps
Luke (12:52 AM) :
We wanted to make an accommodation towards you with our suggestion
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:52 AM) :
you have the right to decline our challange and not accept Castle keep yes
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:53 AM) :
i will accept any map, not made by CIA, as 2nd map
Luke (12:53 AM) :
We want to play with you... but if you come with your map which you played a lot of times and which is not official you could make an accomodation also if we accet it
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:53 AM) :
Caslte keep is VERY std
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:53 AM) :
it was realesed 11 month ago
Luke (12:53 AM) :
we played it 2 hours..no more
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:54 AM) :
they even have a "Castle Keep GOLD" edition due to it being so popular
Luke (12:54 AM) :
That does not help us... we dont play that map and it is not official
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:55 AM) :
hehehe
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:55 AM) :
ok
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:55 AM) :
i hear you
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:55 AM) :
well thats it then
Luke (12:56 AM) :
Hey... moment ;-)
what about 1. Castle keep and then 2 times Everon CTF as 2 and 3 game?
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:56 AM) :
listen, i can see a pattern here
Luke (12:56 AM) :
You can have your map... but it should be allowed to make compromises then
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:56 AM) :
you want to bend the rules
Luke (12:56 AM) :
no
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:56 AM) :
so you cant loose
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:56 AM) :
you want Everon
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:57 AM) :
which is the map you nay choose as 2nd
Luke (12:57 AM) :
Hey guy... if you want to play unofficial maps it is always a discussion.
Then discuss it or choose official maps
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:57 AM) :
and you want CIA maps
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:57 AM) :
and oyu want to choose the 3rd map
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:57 AM) :
i accept any map as 2nd map
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:58 AM) :
officail or not
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:58 AM) :
as long as its not made by CIA
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:58 AM) :
thats a good offer
Luke (12:58 AM) :
nah... then you can choose 2 times yours and we only one time ours
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:58 AM) :
we are underdogs
Luke (12:58 AM) :
Everon CTF is neutral
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:58 AM) :
thats our privilage according to rules
Luke (12:59 AM) :
if you keep it in official maps
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:59 AM) :
No its not
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:59 AM) :
its the one you know the best
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:59 AM) :
the one you want
Luke (12:59 AM) :
hehe... I am sure exactly that is the cause you want Castle keep
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:59 AM) :
do you know the word hagle
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:00 PM) :
you are hagleing
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:00 PM) :
trying to make a specialdeal
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:00 PM) :
to your favor
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:00 PM) :
accept the challangem and choose 2nd map,
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:00 PM) :
or dont
Luke (1:00 PM) :
To repeat... if you would not want an unofficial map we would not have that discussion!
Luke (1:01 PM) :
choose officials and no more discussion needed
It is your turn
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:01 PM) :
ok, then lets call this off, and let others know ,that CIA only plays officail maps
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:01 PM) :
?
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:01 PM) :
correct?
Luke (1:01 PM) :
no
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:02 PM) :
i dont get it
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:02 PM) :
you play unofficails, if you can choose 3rd map?
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:02 PM) :
and 2nd?
Luke (1:02 PM) :
You dont accept a tcz BETA map, right?
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:02 PM) :
yes i do
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:02 PM) :
as your 2nd
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:02 PM) :
if its not made by CIA
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:03 PM) :
Beta = unofficail
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:03 PM) :
i accept any map, unnofficail
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:03 PM) :
as long as its not made by CIA
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:04 PM) :
and you give it to me today
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:06 PM) :
Let me know you decision later
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:06 PM) :
tonight
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:06 PM) :
have to work now
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:06 PM) :
bye
Luke (1:06 PM) :
I cannot tell such a map at the moment.
I will show the CiA guys our discussion... perhaps they have got a solution.
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:06 PM) :
ok
Luke (1:06 PM) :
bye... cu later!
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:06 PM) :
see ya tonight
Luke (1:07 PM) :
cu!
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any idea?
Hi!
I wanted to talk about the map for the match next Wednesday
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-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:41 AM) :
ok shoot
Luke (12:43 AM) :
We checked the Castle keep yesterday in the training. It seems to be a nice map, but there were two arguments against it:
1. we dont know it (hehe.. not too bad for you ;-)
2. It is not official... it is nowhere in tcz
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:44 AM) :
have you read the rules? We can choose any map we like, as long as we agree and make give the opponent the map one week in advance. This is map is as close to standard it get, its one of the oldest around.
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:45 AM) :
you are denying us the choice of it?
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:45 AM) :
you may choose 2nd map
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:45 AM) :
we choose 1st and 3rd
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:46 AM) :
if a 3rd is needed hehehe
Luke (12:46 AM) :
not so hard... Dan... it is just a discussion... I have a suggestion
Luke (12:46 AM) :
;-)
Luke (12:48 AM) :
What do you think about the following:
1. Castle keep (so you have your own map)
2. Hot Metal (it is the CiA CTF as BETA in tcz... so I hope it will be official soon also... also you know it)
3. Everon (we both know that map... so it is a fair thing)
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:48 AM) :
no good
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:48 AM) :
we will not play a map you guys have made
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:49 AM) :
we enjoy them much, but its suicide to play a top team, on map they have constructed
Luke (12:49 AM) :
That map could be official very soon and at the moment it is a BETA in tcz... if it is official it is a must
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:49 AM) :
You may choose Everon as 2nd map yes
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:49 AM) :
3rd is our choice
Luke (12:49 AM) :
2. Custom Maps are allowed to be used under the following guidelines: Both teams must agree to a match of this nature. If both teams canât decide or one team is not involved in designing custom maps then the stock rule applies. Prior to a "custom map" match both teams will submit the maps to each other no less than one week before the scheduled match. They will also submit these maps to The Combat Zone OFP Design Team for archiving: maps@thecombatzone.net <mailto:maps@thecombatzone.net>
Luke (12:50 AM) :
We dont must accept Castle keep
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:50 AM) :
what is your choice for second
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:50 AM) :
you cant decisde 3rd
Luke (12:51 AM) :
we dont must agree with any not official map
Luke (12:51 AM) :
ups... wrong sentence, but I am sure you know what I mean:
We dont must agree on non official maps
Luke (12:52 AM) :
We wanted to make an accommodation towards you with our suggestion
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:52 AM) :
you have the right to decline our challange and not accept Castle keep yes
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:53 AM) :
i will accept any map, not made by CIA, as 2nd map
Luke (12:53 AM) :
We want to play with you... but if you come with your map which you played a lot of times and which is not official you could make an accomodation also if we accet it
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:53 AM) :
Caslte keep is VERY std
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:53 AM) :
it was realesed 11 month ago
Luke (12:53 AM) :
we played it 2 hours..no more
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:54 AM) :
they even have a "Castle Keep GOLD" edition due to it being so popular
Luke (12:54 AM) :
That does not help us... we dont play that map and it is not official
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:55 AM) :
hehehe
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:55 AM) :
ok
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:55 AM) :
i hear you
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:55 AM) :
well thats it then
Luke (12:56 AM) :
Hey... moment ;-)
what about 1. Castle keep and then 2 times Everon CTF as 2 and 3 game?
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:56 AM) :
listen, i can see a pattern here
Luke (12:56 AM) :
You can have your map... but it should be allowed to make compromises then
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:56 AM) :
you want to bend the rules
Luke (12:56 AM) :
no
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:56 AM) :
so you cant loose
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:56 AM) :
you want Everon
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:57 AM) :
which is the map you nay choose as 2nd
Luke (12:57 AM) :
Hey guy... if you want to play unofficial maps it is always a discussion.
Then discuss it or choose official maps
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:57 AM) :
and you want CIA maps
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:57 AM) :
and oyu want to choose the 3rd map
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:57 AM) :
i accept any map as 2nd map
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:58 AM) :
officail or not
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:58 AM) :
as long as its not made by CIA
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:58 AM) :
thats a good offer
Luke (12:58 AM) :
nah... then you can choose 2 times yours and we only one time ours
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:58 AM) :
we are underdogs
Luke (12:58 AM) :
Everon CTF is neutral
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:58 AM) :
thats our privilage according to rules
Luke (12:59 AM) :
if you keep it in official maps
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:59 AM) :
No its not
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:59 AM) :
its the one you know the best
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:59 AM) :
the one you want
Luke (12:59 AM) :
hehe... I am sure exactly that is the cause you want Castle keep
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (12:59 AM) :
do you know the word hagle
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:00 PM) :
you are hagleing
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:00 PM) :
trying to make a specialdeal
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:00 PM) :
to your favor
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:00 PM) :
accept the challangem and choose 2nd map,
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:00 PM) :
or dont
Luke (1:00 PM) :
To repeat... if you would not want an unofficial map we would not have that discussion!
Luke (1:01 PM) :
choose officials and no more discussion needed
It is your turn
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:01 PM) :
ok, then lets call this off, and let others know ,that CIA only plays officail maps
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:01 PM) :
?
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:01 PM) :
correct?
Luke (1:01 PM) :
no
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:02 PM) :
i dont get it
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:02 PM) :
you play unofficails, if you can choose 3rd map?
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:02 PM) :
and 2nd?
Luke (1:02 PM) :
You dont accept a tcz BETA map, right?
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:02 PM) :
yes i do
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:02 PM) :
as your 2nd
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:02 PM) :
if its not made by CIA
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:03 PM) :
Beta = unofficail
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:03 PM) :
i accept any map, unnofficail
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:03 PM) :
as long as its not made by CIA
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:04 PM) :
and you give it to me today
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:06 PM) :
Let me know you decision later
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:06 PM) :
tonight
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:06 PM) :
have to work now
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:06 PM) :
bye
Luke (1:06 PM) :
I cannot tell such a map at the moment.
I will show the CiA guys our discussion... perhaps they have got a solution.
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:06 PM) :
ok
Luke (1:06 PM) :
bye... cu later!
-=[SWEC]=-Lt_Dan_Swe (1:06 PM) :
see ya tonight
Luke (1:07 PM) :
cu!
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any idea?
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