10-14-2014, 02:25 PM
For reference, I do not think that the mission itself sucks, quite the contrary. It was our execution that sucked. Big time.
I disagree. IFV are there to fight alongside the infantry. The problem was positioning. The APC's were standing in the middle of the road, with no cover whatsoever. Every mofu with a missile launcher could reach them. As I said, I attribute this failure to the fact that they were understaffed, a full crew or at least driver and gunner/commander-seat-switcher is needed for this. Otherwise we could go on foot directly, which is out of question for such a distance.
Add to that the complete failure in communication. Maverick says himself he was completely without guidance, which is something that MUST not happen. No idea who his team leader was, but if the team leader doesn't use his assets correctly, this is what happens. In a situation like this, it does require a lot of concentration and multi-tasking.
The mission commander, I think, should be in an extra, small team, maybe just him and the squad's medic, so that he doesn't need to micro-manage his own fire team on top of it.
But as I said in my original post, IMO the biggest issue of this mission was our failure at communication, plus the failure to properly distribute the communication, which lead to situations like Maverick not knowing what to do/where to go. Idle assets are no assets, especially since the medic was sorely needed.
Don't get me wrong, whoever was Maverick's TL, I am not blaming anyone here more than I blame myself. This is not about saying "It was your fault". I am just trying to find out, in retrospect, what exactly went so wrong.
(10-14-2014, 06:51 AM)Phantom link Wrote:I think its safer to keep the tank and APC in the back to provide cover fire and go in between the buildings and such like how outlawz and I did after everyone was pretty much dead. It might be easier to avoid AT shots or mines in that matter (you'll find mines off the road too so its pretty dangerous). I think the infantry can move up and clear the mines along the road for the tank to push forward. I guess since alwarren does have a problem with infantry using vehicles, maybe we can fix up a few and have the crewmen man a tank instead of an APC instead in case the vehicle runs out of ammo. Basically, sweeping mines and pushing forward slowly. (infantries in the front to scout out, vehicles provide covering fire while staying behind buildings or something to avoid being shot from the sides by AT).
I disagree. IFV are there to fight alongside the infantry. The problem was positioning. The APC's were standing in the middle of the road, with no cover whatsoever. Every mofu with a missile launcher could reach them. As I said, I attribute this failure to the fact that they were understaffed, a full crew or at least driver and gunner/commander-seat-switcher is needed for this. Otherwise we could go on foot directly, which is out of question for such a distance.
Add to that the complete failure in communication. Maverick says himself he was completely without guidance, which is something that MUST not happen. No idea who his team leader was, but if the team leader doesn't use his assets correctly, this is what happens. In a situation like this, it does require a lot of concentration and multi-tasking.
The mission commander, I think, should be in an extra, small team, maybe just him and the squad's medic, so that he doesn't need to micro-manage his own fire team on top of it.
But as I said in my original post, IMO the biggest issue of this mission was our failure at communication, plus the failure to properly distribute the communication, which lead to situations like Maverick not knowing what to do/where to go. Idle assets are no assets, especially since the medic was sorely needed.
Don't get me wrong, whoever was Maverick's TL, I am not blaming anyone here more than I blame myself. This is not about saying "It was your fault". I am just trying to find out, in retrospect, what exactly went so wrong.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.