12-16-2016, 07:16 PM
(12-16-2016, 06:15 PM)Variable Wrote: I think McGregor clearly and articulately explained why he chose not to include GPS in this mission, so saying that he had no other reason other from "out of spite", is completely uncalled for, I don't see any reason why would you write something like that, using quotes or not.
I used quotes because it is not to be taken literally. Obviously that didn't quite come through. I don't think that McGregor was offended by this, it was not meant to offend, and plainly, I fail to see how that can be taken as offensive. The quotes clearly mark it as an exaggeration, like when I say 'Episode One was "great"', everybody knows I don't mean it like that.
In this case, "out of spite" means "for the reason that I don't want to do it", or whatever you want to call it. I can't believe that I have to explain it, and I can't believe that you seriously think I was trying to be offensive.
Anyway...
Unfortunately, it seems like everybody misunderstood the point of this thread. I thought I had made it clear. This was not about a specific mission. It was not about any specific situation. Clearly, our discussion yesterday was more generic than this.
I don't care what people put in their mission, it is their decision. What I was trying to argue against is the point that "less is better". I merely tried to express my opinion (which is why I quoted a number of other missions) that I do not like limitations on a mission that I deem artificial. When Sputnik Monroe makes a mission that takes place in 1989's Afghanistan, I don't expect GPS. If a mission takes place in 2016's Afghanistan and I am a member of a special forces team, I DO expect it. If I am supposed to blow up some radio tower I also expect I have explosives. The point I was trying to make, and that everybody obviously interpreted as a personal attack against McGregor's choice, is WHY *I*, personally, would expect to have access to the right gear for a mission. Whether or not someone else subscribes to this opinion or not is really not my concern, nor do I wish to impose anything on someone.
I tried to argue that in my opinion the mission would not have suffered at all from giving the team leader a GPS, and from what McGregor said yesterday ("you won't see GPS in my missions") I concluded that the reason for this was that he doesn't want to include them, not that there is a reason for the gameplay of his mission. I tend to disagree with this sentiment, and that is why I posted what I posted. Unfortunately you all seem to think that this was a) a personal attack against McGregors mission (it wasn't) and b) I was trying to tell people how to do their missions (I wasn't).
As I said, I am all for removing stuff like GPS and NVG's if there is a good reason for it. If a mission maker thinks there is a compelling reason and I can't see that reason, like in this case, that's fine. However, that doesn't mean that my opinion is invalid. For me, it did impact my enjoyment of the mission. Not much, mind you, as I said I really liked the mission once it was going, but for me this felt like an unnecessary obstacle and for me it felt artificial. That is, as I tried to point out, a completely individual and personal feeling. I would play this mission again in a heartbeat. But there were two opposing opinions on the matter, and I merely tried to reason mine. I can only stress again that I do not wish to impose anything on anyone. However, I reserve the right to feel like this without having to defend myself for it.
Let me give another example. I don't remember which mission it was (I only remember that Stag was leading it) where I played the medic. It was the vanilla loadout, so I did have iron sights and nothing else. No binocs. The mission took place mostly on long range engagements. The mission was boring as fuck for me. I couldn't do shit. The only thing I ever did in that mission was hand out a few band aids. If I had had a long range optic, I could have partaken in that mission. If I had binoculars, I could have at least spotted for people. I had neither. I was completely useless. I felt completely useless. The mission was boring for me. In fact, after that mission I didn't take the medic slot anymore for a long while.
I'll bottom line it again.
What I wanted to achieve and obviously failed is that mission makers consider if a decision they take improves a mission or not. I gave some examples to underline my point of view. Whether you agree to it or not isn't really the point, in the end, mission makers do what they want to do. I know that you, Variable, prefer not to have long range optics. I prefer to have them. Yet, I will not give them to guerrillas because I feel they shouldn't have them.
This was never about a specific mission. I was a continuation, or an attempt at it, from the discussion we had yesterday. I posted it because I feel I should state my opinion on the subject, because I don't want to see this become a trend to remove things. Yes, it's a selfish reason: It's about my enjoyment of the game.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.